"Morality: Should It Be Legislated?" by Dr. Frank Turek

"Morality: Should It Be Legislated?" by Dr. Frank Turek
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now the question is can we legislate morality yes okay let's take a break I'd like to start in the United States Senate way back in 2003 this is senator Sam Brownback he's now the governor of Kansas he was the senator from Kansas back then and he showed a photograph of a 21 week old baby in the womb who was spared abortion by doctors who operated in the womb to correct a birth defect and this is a picture you can see the hand gripping the finger of the doctor here actually is a better shot of that this is in the womb at 21 weeks so he showed this photo and he asked the question is little Samuels hand the hand of a person because that was the name of the baby Sam it's ironic that sam Brownback's name or he said it's just just just a piece of property and Senator Barbara Boxer I think if I'm not mistaken she's from California she said this I am NOT a doctor and I'm not I'm not God I trust other human beings to make these decisions question do you need to be a doctor or God to know that that is a human being in there and by the way if she trusts others to make those decisions she should not be a lawmaker because that's what lawmakers do they make decisions like that so maybe she should just get out of the Senate I would think that would be the the way to handle this all right so let's let's talk about this whole topic here's what we're going to do the first thing we're going to talk about is should Christians be involved in politics secondly can we legislate morality why would we be involved in politics at all can we even legislate morality always here you can't thirdly what are the stakes of being involved or not being involved and then finally what can you do that's kind of the big picture you guys ready to go all right good point number one should Christians be involved in politics and when people say to me particularly Christians they say to me well you know I'm not involved in politics I just preach the gospel in fact pastor jack has had many pastors that he's tried to reach out to to get involved they'll say look look brother brother brother I just preached the word okay whenever I hear something like that I take out my iphone and I show the people who say this kind of thing this picture does anyone know what this is this is Korea this is the Korean Peninsula now why is there a difference between South Korea and North Korea and don't say electricity okay I mean yeah that's part of it here South Korea is one of the most Christianized countries in the world it has the gospel it has freedom it has obviously a very robust economy North Korea on the other hand is a concentration camp there's one major reason for the difference between South and North Korea anyone know what it is no it's not god I'm hate to say it's not God but actually I mean God remotely so yes obviously there's a big difference that God there is God in South Korea in terms of the ability to preach the gospel and in North Korea don't have that but it's more basic than even that the major well freedom but what's the broader category the broader category is politics the South has freedom the North does not can we do what we're doing in this room in North Korea no we can't why because politically they've ruled it out and pastors or Christians say I don't get involved in politics because I just preached the gospel I say to them then you don't think the gospel is very important why because in places like South or like North Korea or some of the places I've been to like Iran Saudi Arabia and China you can't do what we're doing legally in this room what we're doing right we can't do this in those countries why because politically they've ruled it out politics even affects our ability to preach the gospel and in fact just just go to North Korea and try and do it we're doing just go to Saudi Arabia and try and do it we're doing just just go to Iran and try and do what we're doing right now in those countries you can't do it because politically they've ruled it out in fact if you think about this long enough you'll realize that politics affects almost every aspect of your life politics affects your church your family your health your money your business your freedom your property your school your home your security your safety the poor the unborn just about everything politics even affects this building and how it was built here and what the code is for the but politics affects virtually everything that you do so if you don't think politics are important you basically don't think life is important in fact what do you always hear two things you never talk about in polite company religion or politics well those are about the only two things worth talking about half the time if you think about it how are we going to live now that's politics and how are we going to live an eternity that's religion so those I mean those that's alive from Satan don't talk about those things those are the two things that are really are worth talking about now what is the purpose of government what is what why do we even have a government the Bible actually tells us why we have a government Paul talks about it in Romans chapter 13 he says the government is the servant of God to execute wrath on the wrongdoer the main purpose of government is to protect innocent people from evil that's the main purpose if there was no government we would not be protected from evil what do you think would happen if law enforcement said tomorrow there will be no law enforcement you can do whatever you want you'll never be prosecuted for it what do you think would happen there would be mayhem people would be killed people would be raped BestBuy would be overrun you think Black Friday is bad car dealerships would be overrun you think people aren't currently good no we're inherently evil it's easy to be bad it's hard to be good that's why James Madison who said one of the most pippi things ever about government and who is the father of our Constitution said this if men were angels no government would be necessary if men were angels no government would be necessary we need a government to protect innocent people from evil you say well Jesus didn't get involved in politics Oh contraire we talked about this last night in fact in the book of Matthew Jesus actually excoriates the politicians here's what he says woe to you teachers of the law and Pharisees you hypocrites you give a tenth of your spices mint dull and cumin but you have what neglected the more important matters of the law justice mercy and faithfulness he says this to the political leaders now if he were here today he would say the same thing to our political leaders you know our political leaders are telling us what light bulbs we can't and can't use but they won't prevent people from murdering people in the womb Planned Parenthood is selling body parts and they're trying to justify this and you know what the politicians are saying well maybe we ought to defund Planned Parenthood how about that defund them maybe had a defund Hitler for the concentration camps maybe we ought to prosecute them what are the more important matters of the law Jesus says justice mercy and faithfulness do you think killing people is a more important matter than what light bulbs will use yeah we've got everything inverted in this country and you'll see a little bit later whose fault that is now half Christians fail you knows a lot of people will say look we tried to get involved in politics and you know just nothing ever works out I mean we're losing everything how can you be involved I want to take a macro view I'm going to go all the way back to to the first century right up to today outside of these few things we have failed in politics completely failed outside of getting rid of slavery kidnap Brides child labor gladiatorial combat death games infanticide child marriage temple prostitution child sexual abuse child prostitution wives his property fair treatment of prisoners Equality of mankind and even restricting abortion we haven't done anything good politically take the macro view we've actually done some very good things to civilize society as Christians even on the issue of abortion since the Supreme Court legislated from the bench is it continually teams to do now we've actually made some advances on the issue of abortion in this country over the past decade or so pro-life Christians have passed over 500 laws restricting abortion moreover the abortion rate has declined about 22% and we're now a pro-life country just barely but we are and sonograms have helped do that help show that but even if we were never successful on any political endeavor it is not your responsibility or my responsibility to win politically it is our responsibility to be faithful it is our responsibility to do what what's right and leave the results to God because even just by going through the struggle Jeff was just talking about life is a conflict going through the conflict going through the struggle actually enhances us and helps us to become more like Jesus so we suffer for Jesus even if we don't win politically now we win ultimately in the end but the point here is is we're supposed to do what's right and leave the to God so I don't care how bleak anything looks I don't care how many times you failed in the past it's not your role or your job to guarantee a victory you can't guarantee a victory in a temporal sense your job is to be faithful and leave the results to God so you keep doing what's right no matter what happens does that make sense all right so now let's go to the next question can we legislate morality because you always hear you can't legislate morality and I want to start with my favorite politician from the Commonwealth the People's Republic of taksa chuse 'it's John Kerry okay and here is what John Kerry said when he was running for president about ten years ago he said I oppose abortion personally I don't like abortion I believe that life does begin at conception but I can't take my Catholic belief my article of faith and legislate it on a Protestant or Jew an atheist we have separation of church and state in the United States of America now for some people that just sounds so reasonable doesn't it but this I submit to you as a fallacy there are several fallacies in this particular quotation here and as Chesterton Chesterton said so well many years ago he said fallacies do not cease being fallacies when they become fashions there's a lot of fashionable statements out there that sound really good but they're still fallacies now why is this particular statement from John Kerry a fallacy well let's take a look at some of the things he said here I believe life does begin at conception well Senator Kerry doesn't matter what you believe about it it's true regardless of whether you believe about it it's not just your article of faith it's a scientific fact that one when a sperm and an ode I say sperm you're not supposed to say that a soldier and an egg come together you have a 100% genetic human being that's that's not that's not a article of faith that's a scientific fact and also the separation of church and state what does that have to do with it you'll see it has absolutely nothing to do with it here in just a second let me ask you this suppose Senator Kerry had actually said this suppose he had said I oppose slavery personally I don't like slavery I believe blacks really are people but I can't take my Catholic belief my article of faith and legislated on a Protestant Jew or atheist we have separation Church of Satan United States of America would you go what would you say that's just stupid man well it is stupid because none of this makes any sense when you look at it for more than ten seconds because the separation of church and state is irrelevant whether or not it's in the Constitution it's not but it's completely irrelevant why because the separation of church and state is not the issue the issue is not religion but morality we got to keep this is it this is the key distinction I want you to get in this entire presentation when you're talking to somebody about these moral issues you're not just talking about religion you see religion has to do with our duty to God morality has to do with our duty to one another we are not trying to tell people where when how or if to go to church that's legislating religion but we can't avoid telling people how we ought to treat one another and that's legislating morality and here's the newsflash of the day all laws legislate morality every law declares one behavior right and the opposite behavior wrong you can't think of a law that doesn't legislate some sort of moral principle yeah well there are some laws that you might consider whether or not really more like you know how many representatives are in the United States Congress okay that might not be a moral law but what the moral aspect of it is whatever we decide that's what everybody needs to obey okay even speed limits imply a moral right to life why are there speed limits because we think life is valuable and we think it's immoral for you to put other people in danger or yourself by going too fast on certain roads speed limits imply a moral right to life now notice the First Amendment to the United States Constitution actually says what can anyone tell me what it says what's that okay well the freedom BBQ does anyone have the real language can anybody tell me what the real language is to the first amendment United States Constitution no Google what's that Congress shall make no law I said no Google the guys reading it off his phone alright throw this guy outta here see this is the problem we don't even know what it says it says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof notice by the way the First Amendment does not say Congress shall make the law respecting an establishment of morality or prohibiting the free exercise thereof why because it's impossible in fact this particular amendment establishes a moral code it says it's immoral for Congress to establish a national religion or prohibit the free exercise of religion that's it that's a moral claim it's making its putting morality into the law that's what all laws do you say well Frank we can't legislate the Bible why not would that be immoral but when we legislate laws against murder theft fraud these kind of things are we legislating the Bible well in a certain sense you could say yes but actually in another sense you could say no why because you don't need the Bible to know that murder and theft and fraud are wrong they're written on your hearts in fact if somebody says we can't legislate anything that's in the Bible what would that mean we could have no laws against murder we could have no laws against theft we could have no laws against fraud we could have none of these laws think about that in fact if we couldn't have laws consistent with the moral principles in the Bible we couldn't have any of these laws including laws against murder theft and rape so the point here is is we're not legislating religion but we are legislating morality just because it's in the Bible doesn't mean we can't legislate it but the Bible and the moral law upon which this nation was founded come from the same source god that's why when Jefferson said we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men were evolved ohnot created and endowed with their creator with certain inalienable rights among these life liberty – happiness you know how to debate with michael shermer a few months back in new york and i brought up this and he's an atheist and he said he lives out here in california he said oh what the founders meant evolved they didn't mean endowed by creator I said you are out of your mind that's just stupid we're down by our Creator if there is no creator as I said last night there are no rights no rights to anything because everything is just a matter of human opinion all right so obviously yes the answer is you can legislate morality by the way morality is legislated on all these things on both sides pro-life people think an unborn child has a moral right to life pro-abortion people think oh no a woman has a moral right to abort her child those are both moral claims same-sex marriage I have a right to same-sex marriage I have a right not to endorse same-sex marriage they're both moral rights same thing is true with no-fault divorce by the way where did that start does anyone know by who by Ronald Reagan huh the patron saint of conservatism yes he he later regretted it but he signed it here in a California and it swept across the nation and by the way we got to get a lot more serious about that one as Christians we've got to start making it more difficult to get a divorce not less difficult you know the only so-called contract that we have in America that the party who wants to break the contract is given favor is divorce think about that any other contra your business contract and you want to get out of it oh the other guy is a contract you're going to have to pay up no in marriage you can just say look I don't like you anymore I'm out of here I'm not happy anymore by the way is that is that the standard that we go by if you're not happy anymore you have a right not to be married where do we get that from what do we get that idea that happiness is our standard and if we're not happy no longer do we have to adhere to our vows where do where do we get that from by the way is the goal of marriage just to be happy is that it Gary Thomas wrote a book years ago it was called a sacred marriage in the subtitle is all you need to know the subtitle said this what if God created marriage more for our holiness than our happiness because by having to sacrifice for somebody else you become more like Jesus if it's all about you in marriage it's not going to work anyway happiness that's up and down that's a feeling as Rodney Dangerfield said my wife and I were happy for 20 years and then we met don't get me wrong I'm very happy with my wife right dear no I am but look if happiness is our standard everyone in this room is bit who's married you'd have been divorced a thousand times because there are times you're happening there's times you're not it's not about happiness it's about holiness and it's about committing yourself to somebody else in fact a friend of mine who is a pastor in Charlotte said where do we get this idea that feelings love is all about feeling she said let me tell you what love is my mother lost her mind Alzheimer's my father for years took care of her every day even though she didn't know who he was that's love it's not just about feelings what about some other objections about you can't legislate morality like what about prohibition we cover this in the book legislating morality but just because you can over legislate morality doesn't mean you can't legislate morality in fact the people who are against prohibition have a moral category they say they have a moral right to manufacture and drink alcoholic beverages where are people on the other side is saying no you don't those are both moral categories morality is legislated either way what about this you always hear this you can't make people be good well most laws aren't trying to make you be good most laws are trying to prevent you from doing evil as Martin Luther King said it is true the law can't help make somebody love me but it can help them from lynching me and I think that's pretty important of course tragically the law didn't even help him completely because there are people that break the law and murder others but the point here is is that laws aren't intended to make you be good laws are intended to prevent you from doing evil in most cases and what about this you hear this all the time you shouldn't impose your morality on other people if somebody ever says this you shouldn't impose your moral views on others what questions should you ask him apply the claim to itself like we did last night what would you say to somebody who says this yes and we say hey is that your moral view notice this is a self-defeating statement because they are imposing their morality that you not impose your morality on them it's a moral point of view you can't get away from it and by the way when people say this I may say this and then I'll say look look this isn't my morality I didn't make it up I didn't make up the fact that murders wrong that abortion is wrong that men were made for women and women were made for men and then when they come together they procreate to perpetuate and stabilize society I didn't make that up that's not my morality that's just the morality if you've got a problem with that you got a problem with the creator you got a problem with me I didn't make any of this stuff up and so when people say don't impose your morality on me I go look it's not my morality and I don't think you ought to impose my morality and I don't think we ought to impose your morality what I think we ought to impose is new morality the one that Thomas Jefferson said was self-evident right we hold these truths to be self-evident these are self-evident truths by the way why did Jefferson put life first because the right to life is the right to all other rights if you don't have life you don't have anything so the point here is is just say look it's not my morality it's the morality and you know it in your heart you may suppress it you may want to do your own thing and if you're going to try and tell me some other moral statement is true you got to give some evidence for that who what's your standard who said abortion is a moral right who said two men marrying one another's and where do you get that from if there's no standard beyond you it's just your opinion it's not a right at all all right so of course you can legislate morality now the question is what are the stakes what are the stakes of getting involved or not getting involved well actually there's some very severe stakes going on the stakes are very high here are just three of them your children and grandchildren are going to be affected dramatically by how well you get involved in the political world secondly your freedoms including your freedom to preach and live the gospel are going to be affected they already are going to be effective and finally just lives in general are going to be saved or not saved by what we do and let me start by pointing this out let me ask you guys a question can anyone tell me who this is that's Britney Spears here's our problem everyone goes oh that's Britney Spears what's the first remembers of consturction I don't know what yeah see that's our problem right there everyone knows that's Britney Spears but we don't know the Constitution yeah that's Britney Spears now Britney Spears got into a lot of trouble several years ago because of this what's the problem no seat belt the baby is not restrained in a safety harness a baby restraint system she is a moral monster no I don't know about you but if you go back 40 or so years nobody thought this was a moral problem in fact my dad used to put me on his lap and we'd steer through town fact Bruce Springsteen has a song where he said my dad would put me on my laugh and we'd steer through town Asbury Park New Jersey right where I'm from and people do this all the time and you remember you folks are old enough to remember the wood sided station wagon right you go on vacation mom and dad would sit in the front all the kids would get in the back and you'd be crawling all over that car you wouldn't be strapped down at all right and every once in a while dad would have to turn around as you're crawling all over the back you kids better knock it off I'm going to come back there and knock a few heads together right nobody's buckled in you're going 70 miles down the highway and no one ever said a word today if you don't strap your kids in like they're about to take off on the space shuttle you're somehow some moral monster how does this happen what happened what changed we saw too many kids in accidents get injured or maimed or killed and we said we need to put a lawn you know you're going to have to strap these kids down and now we think that anybody who does this kind of thing is somehow a moral monster because the law changed why and here's the key point the law is a great teacher many people think whatever is illegal is moral and whatever is illegal is immoral we see this with slavery about 150 or so years ago about half the country thought it was okay the other half said no this is immoral now how many people do you know who thinks slavery the kind of slavery we had 150 years ago is a good thing hardly anybody questioned are we more religious now or less religious now we're less religious now yet we have a better moral view on slavery why what changed the law changed the Thirteenth Amendment the United States Constitution after a horrific civil war said that you can't do this anymore slavery is now illegal and many people think whatever is legal is moral whatever is illegal is it more abortion same thing in 1973 we had a consensus around the country 50 state laws against abortion then seven justices in black robes unelected overturn the will of the people in all 50 states in roe v wade now we're about evenly split on abortion why because many people think whatever is legal is moral and whatever is illegal is immoral now the same-sex marriage case same thing what kind of implications is that going to have we're going to talk about it tomorrow morning in the first service but the point here is the law is a great teacher if you don't get involved what you're saying to your kids and grandkids is that the law that will help teach them what they think about right and wrong doesn't really matter and we're not doing anybody any favors by saying that it's a good thing that you get into a relationship with somebody of the same sex and try and stay and stay in that relationship because medically it's a dangerous thing and yet now what that's what the law saying the law just isn't permitting this the law is promoting this now see the law is a great teacher we'll see you tomorrow morning the difference between permitting something and promoting something so the law is important you can't give up on the law now also the gospel is affected these two politicians who shall remain unnamed according to Gill one of them thinks he's God hey in all seriousness we need to pray for our leaders I don't care who's in there you need to pray for them but President Obama and both and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have shifted their language in recent years from freedom of religion to freedom of worship have you noticed this because there's a big big difference the First Amendment United States Constitution says that the Congress or the government can't prevent the free exercise of religion notice that the free exercise of religion freedom of worship is something a lot less robust freedom of worship is to come in here and and sing songs and think about Jesus or think about Jesus in your home personal life but that's as far as it goes you can't actually live it out so what these politicians are now seem to be saying is that you can believe anything you want while you're in your church but you can't act on it outside your church or we could put it this way your pastor can preach whatever he wants as long as you don't obey it that's pastor Jack can he can talk about anything he wants up here but just don't you dare go outside these doors and try and apply it that's the difference between freedom of worship and freedom of religion in fact this is what Justice Kennedy said who by the way I think is from California Sacramento who was appointed by Ronald Reagan I love Reagan we all make mistakes this guy was the substitute for justice Robert Bork I'm telling you if Bork had made the court this country would be in a lot better shape right now but Justice Kennedy who in my opinion I'm not saying he's an evil man but he is literally the worst justice in the history of the United States because he doesn't pay any attention to the United States Constitution he's a legislature a legislature he's not a judge here's what he says however in the second to last paragraph of this decision this is the same-sex marriage decision he says finally it must be emphasized that religions and those who adhere to religious doctrines may continue to advocate with utmost sincere conviction that by divine precept same-sex marriage should not be condoned notice the language here you can advocate whatever you want but notice he doesn't say that you can continue to live by those convictions you can just talk about them you can preach about them but don't you dare try and live by them this is not freedom of religion this is freedom of worship in fact this is Chi fell bomb who was a lesbian activist appointed by President Obama talking about the inevitable conflict between so-called gay rights and religious rights and here's what she says about the whole thing I'm having a hard time coming up with any case in which religious liberty should win in fact have you heard of these folks Aaron and Melissa Kline said we cannot participate in a same-sex wedding by providing a same-sex wedding cake for you right well do you know what you know what happened to them recently it's in the state of Oregon the state of Oregon and their labor commission whoever it was has find them $135,000 $135,000 for pain and emotional suffering to the two lesbians they spa lightly said that we can't do your same-sex wedding now let me ask you a question whether you're you consider yourself homosexual or heterosexual would you want anyone who didn't agree with your marriage to have anything to do with it I mean is it so hard to find somebody else to bake a cake or another florist or another photographer know that why are these people so intent on forcing Christians and other people you know it's too bad they're not Muslims why are they so intent on forcing them because this is not about live-and-let-live this is not about tolerance this is unless you see it our way we will hurt you I noticed that the people who deep in their hearts know what they're doing is wrong can't stand that somebody else doesn't agree with them and so they have to do everything they can in their power to try and force people to do what their convictions or God tells them they can't do look man if I'm getting married if you don't agree with my wedding then fine I'll find somebody else there's plenty other people who'll do it these people are fined $105,000 so far there's an organization that it used to be GoFundMe but they shut them down I just read that as of yesterday people have given them through another organization 372 thousand dollars but of course that's that's not enough because they don't really have a business anymore and they have kids so you need to pray for them and see what happens with this case in Oregon I checked this out you know that a Christian consultant was fired by Bank of America for gay marriage book just months after being fired from Cisco Systems in California or an anti-gay marriage well Kristen consultant who the heck is that yeah that's me I wrote that book correct now politically correct how same-sex marriage everyone I don't have time to tell you the whole story here but the point here is is that I was fired because I had written a book that had nothing to do with what I was doing Francisco or Bank of America but they fired me because the people who say they're fighting for tolerance are often the most intolerant people out there in fact I had a conversation with the head of inclusion and diversity at Cisco my name is Marilyn Nagel and she just quite couldn't figure out how in the name of inclusion in diversity that it was wrong to exclude me for having a diverse view just couldn't quite figure that out so that books available back on the book table as well and there's a couple of columns in fact there's some columns that I've written and my friend Mike Adams has written on this topic there on townhall.com and if you go to townhall.com and click on my name frank Turek you'll see a column called sex at work read that column it explains what happened by the way do not put that in google sex at work okay just want you to be aware of that go to Town Hall calm click on my name then look for it it's from 2011 and also read the column by Mike Adams called the Cisco Kid okay because I actually wrote a letter to John Chambers who's the head of Cisco and a lot of great people in Cisco by the way when my friends works there I'm not saying this is true the whole company but John Chambers who was on the elect McCain Commission in 2008 he was the CEO of Cisco at the time when they fired me I wrote John Chambers and I said mr. chambers I'm a veteran the United States Navy thank you for your support of Senator John McCain in the last election are you aware that Senator McCain holds the same position on same-sex marriage that I do are you qualified to be working at Cisco so that's how the whole thing started but anyway you can read about it online by the way if we don't stand for religious freedom who will because pastor Jack one day is not going to be able to preach here anymore not because he's going to get old well he will get old Pastor Jack's you know 57 did he tell you that he does not look a day over 56 in my opinion actually he does look really good doesn't he he's a young kid he's just a young kid I'm kind of young too you know I'm 53 when I turned 50 my wife was real encouraging she said honey you're gonna live to be 100 I said how do you know she said because you look half dead already say thanks a lot it's very encouraging nope one day unless you are involved politically they're going to come to that door right there and shut it because he's a bigot a homophobe and he can't preach the gospel anymore all politics doesn't affect I just preach the word you can't preach the word without political freedom not legally who's going to it's a good point what's the problem with this I get one good point a presentation now that's it if we don't protect life who will it's time for the reborn to protect the unborn don't you think all right and if we don't protect children because that's really what marriage is about then who will if we don't do it who's going to do it two good points all right so finally what is the question that you can do now we can get real ornery about the President and and other presidents and gee these guys are really bad and you could make a case that they haven't governed rightly I understand that but who do we really blame yeah you got a problem blame the church word that we're the problem because we have not been salt and light enough we are the problem yeah you can say the gutter the governments we owe but we get the government's we deserve we put those people in there we're the problem and what about the pastors those pastors who say look I just preached the word I've actually had pastors say ho we can't we can't go down this road we we don't can't risk our tax-exempt status last time I check the Bible it didn't say anything about being tax-exempt you're not called to be tax-exempt you're called to be salt light if you lose tax-exempt status so be it in fact no church has ever lost its tax-exempt status because you can do a life you know the ADF Alliance defending freedom is actually sending sermons to the IRS where pastors are getting up and saying vote for this guy don't vote for this guy and the IRS won't touch it why because they know if it ever goes to court they'll probably lose they'd rather leave sleeping dogs lie pastors can say just about anything they want and not lose tax-exempt status and if we do lose tax-exempt status that might ultimately be a good thing why because it'll take all the shackles off us and we'll just everyone will just go well forget it I'm just going to speak the truth then you ought to speak the truth anyway so and by the way and our culture you are Caesar so which kind of country are you trying to create you want something more like South Korea or North Korea yeah hopefully South but it's up to you it's up to me all right as Lincoln said the philosophy of the school room in one generation be the philosophy of the government the next we gave up the government or we gave up the school room we gave up media we gave up law we gave up all these things just to preach the gospel and all the godly influence came out of the culture and then we wonder why the cultures gone godless we're the problem so we can go home and look in the mirror as Edmund Burke famously said the only thing necessary for evil to prevail us for good men to do nothing all right you want to do something good if not you who here are some resources some books that will help you do something legislating morality is really what we talked about here tomorrow we're going to talk about correct not politically correct how same-sex marriage it's everything everyone and then the new book stealing from God why atheists need God to make their case that goes into this in pretty good detail as well in the morality chapter don't forget to put that particular thing in your browser they're cross-examined org for its last summit if you're not a reader you'd rather watch then the legislating morality DVD set which is actually longer than what we just did here in 45 minutes is back on the table it's actually in the gym and then tomorrow's presentation the four PS in the fewer four cues the case for natural marriage and against same-sex marriage is a one-hour video Oh on the topic of same-sex marriage so you can check that out as well all right and then don't forget the TV and the radio that we talked about last time and I also mentioned the app how many have downloaded the app have you downloaded the app yet download it it's free did I mention that free all right and then finally there's some other resources or other organizations out that are doing good work online Alliance defending freedom if you don't know about them just get their alert that will help you see what's going on so you can be involved also nation for merit org these are all nonprofit organizations that are doing good work out there of course FRC org that's Tony Perkins and Gil who works a lot with Tony Perkinson company he is involved there FRC or you've got to know about them AFA dotnet the American Family Association that's they actually carry our radio program and if you get an AFA Alert those guys are amazing if somebody burps in Washington you're going to get an email ten minutes later who burped how long did they burp what did the burps you know like how to prevent future burps you need to know what's going on there dialed in also live action org this is the organization that has done some of those sting videos on Planned Parenthood not the most recent one but other ones it's led by Lila Rose is a graduate of UCLA young gal who is very pro-life so check out that organization as well so summary should Christians be involved in politics yes can we legislate morality yes what are the stakes everything what can you do a lot get busy see you you

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