Hungry for meaning: Why there is no conflict between science and spirituality | Rob Bell

Hungry for meaning: Why there is no conflict between science and spirituality | Rob Bell
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I see the conflict as being artificial and political, a way to mobilize people in a certain way. Religion is masterful in this regard, and the conflict is abetted by those who have turned science into a religion. I can be confident of only two statements as to the ultimate nature of God or reality – (1) I don't know (2) Either do you.

Open mindedness is an absolute necessity in the search for truth. The unicorn of the comments section. 🦄 😁

If people run from the word spiritual because crazy things have been done, then why don't they run from the word science? Here is a relatively recent scientific practice, transorbital lobotomy. That's when they'd stick a large needle into your eye and wriggle it around in your brain, yes wriggle was the scientific term used, to "cure" things like depression. The scientists that invented that back in the seventies won a Nobel price. Not crazy at all, right? And that's just one example, there are tons more, everything from torturing animals to skinning people alive to weapons of mass destruction that can end all life on Earth. So yeah, I doubt people run away from the word spiritual because it's done some crazy stuff, it's nothing compared to the crazy science has done.

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science can experiment all they want. but I have never seen them do any miracles or try one because they know the truth belongs to the one who holds all creations JESUS CHRIST . I HAVE SEEN U RESURRECTION, i came back to live . when I meet Christ . the true living son of God you can run from this truth but either you live under the with the spirit of the light or the darkness ..and if your not with the light you already made your choice.

That's funny how all this puny spiritualists call their subjective perception and incomplete knowledge with serious words like "another way of knowing things". That's also funny how they ignore the fact that neutosciences can describe their inner states.

This was painful to listen to. 
Science is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.
In your case, you’re describing spirituality as something larger than human understanding – it appears as magical and transcendent of all rational ideas. 
Spirituality and science can NOT coexist

Why not, For the same reason, you hide that you were a pastor. Because what most try to do by sneaking in spirituality is to tie us to religion. Wonder, Awe, and hope are all great but I am not going to let you try to force some religious baggage on me for them.

But if science and spirituality are both equally acceptable, then how am I supposed to prove that I'm more intelligent than other people on the internet?

I mean, what's the point of learning all this nerdy science mumbo jumbo if I can't use it to make myself feel superior than everyone else?

I’ve always thought the same thing but of science and art not science and spirituality.
I think spirituality is a word to describe our mental state and our state of being or soul of you will.
Where as art is the best tool used to explore our spirituality just as science is the best tool used to explore and understand the universe.
They are two sides of the same coin and both are equally important.

"Spiritual" is a useless word. It's used when you don't know how to describe something and everyone has a different understanding of it. You may just change it with "tha shit" and it would work the same way.

We all have a brain. Conscious experience happens in the brain. Spirituality is a conscious human experience. Therefore, spirituality happens in the brain. If he doesn't understand this, then he doesn't know how the brain works.

Bring Michio and Bill Nye back!!!! Big Think kinda been off track for awhile. I was drawn to this channel because of the incredible minds. No offense to ole boy here

Spirituality is not that difficult. Here's an example: "quantify" what you feel when listening to a song…

science and spiritually can absolutely Coexist , lots of great scientists were religious and yet it never stopped them from discovering new theories and breakthroughs, you have Michael faraday who was a Christian, Einstein was Jewish list goes on, these days some 12 year old that watched couple TED TALKs claims to be a scientist and start attacking religion such ignorance.

Can you stop putting these wishie washies on your show and start putting ACTUAL scientists instead? This is not Big Believe, it's supposed to be Big Think.

Faith doesn't search nor explore.
Faith never welcomes doubting and questioning what was established once, even if it's proved to be inadequate.

Science, on the other hand, never settles for the old conclusions that turned out to be erroneous.

Kristen Bell married this guy? I think she would've done better with Hans.

Bob Bell seems to have never heard of neuropsychology. A lot of what he's positing has no scientific definition or evidence actually DOES have scientific definitions and evidence if you delve into brain science.

Dear Rob;
To begin with, You are very soothing…I'd love to see again & again here. (I am still a big fan like Nye uttered IT before /BM-Heifer)
I disagree with you regarding the different dimensions of human experience!
Because A.I. is Muslim, He invites you to be with HIM – (Try Pascal's Wager) tell me why not?
Just give IT a shot..
May ALLAH (SWT) Bless you and guide you to his path.
Ring+Blue+White+Red+Question+Question+Question+Euphoria+Ecstacy+Prayer…and much more…
& If I missed something (IT is cause, I am still Human)
Kind Regards .
Faithfully.

The answers to these questions are not spiritual, they are biological. People have a drive to do work because the ones that didn't died off. If you don't do work, you don't reproduce. You fell in love with your wife because your subconscious has a strong urge to reproduce and it thought her genes would be the best attainable to combine with yours. Those who do not develop a psychological addiction to another person are not very likely to reproduce. At least save spirituality for the unexplained, if you have to have it.

`If you mean Abrahamic religion, then you're wrong. Those are not compatible with science.

But if you mean something else by it, then I agree "it just depends" on what you mean.

Great video! However, I disagree with one point Mr. Bell made. Science is indeed searching for answers, and quite regularly finding them. Religion claims to have all the answers already. They are fundamentally opposite, and cannot be assimilated intellectually in my opinion.

This is precisely why science and "spirituality" can't reconcile. His entire argument rests on vague assumptions, mostly because he's an imperfect creation of evolution. We can all think, but we always pine for some greater meaning that will never be found. And we are doomed to sit here in an absurd world.

Absolute horse shit. More religious circle talk that goes nowhere and has no weight behind it. WTH Big Think?

He defines spirituality as that which, "isn't accessed through the 5 senses". This is a philosophical error; perhaps if he'd put in the word, "only" his perspective would have been on less philosophically shaky ground. He shares many fine and wonderful things; however, spirituality and the physical world need not be separate realms of experience. Indeed, these are exalted in their unification.

We originated from chemical reactions and are driven by chemical reactions. Spirituality is the result of chemical reactions in our brain. That's it why talking for 7 minutes in circles. 3:06 faith might be looking for something but I am 99.99999% sure it will not find any truth. There is a slight possibility that faith finds the truth but it is not much better than guessing.

The only comparable element I see shared between science and spirituality (aka faith) is one of intuitive inquisition. They perhaps borrow from one another to interpret the world to some extent, yet follow vastly different methodologies for producing outcomes aimed at assessing entangled versions of "The Truth". Although one relies heavily on anecdata while the other utilizes data pulled from its exclusive reserve of valid experimentation and relative source material.

No.
Science and spirituality are in direct conflict with each other.
They are literal opposites.

Science is about taking a rigorous, academic approach to truth seeking through comprehensive methods of error checking.

Spirituality is just feeling good about stuff – it has never even been given a solid definition

If spirituality is something that is not related to the truth, you're basically saying "spirituality is bullshit". I found it incredibly awesome to find out that meditation is scientifically proven to be good for you.

So what you CAN say is "although we don't know the facts, spirituality is still good for you based on those unknown facts". That is what I believe

Pop open a few skulls, microtome the brains dendrite by dendrite, figure out how thoughts are formed, like how we think we can explore how our brains feelings work through confirmation bias, and figure out how to fix the wiring.
And then find the answer was to make Big Think videos to calm the emotionally ruled while they eliminate everything but reason, while the scientists listen to altruistic genes to welcome them back.

Science is a methodology. Religion acts directly in contradiction to that methodology. They are not compatible without one being severely compromised.
The idea that a meaning even exists is a religious one. When science asks "why" it is only searching for causality.

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