Drunk On Religion

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In the past I’ve had some harsh words to say about Islam, but to be fair I’ve never had any Muslims actually knock on my door to try and convert me to their religion. I only wish I could say the same for Christians. About 3 or 4 times a year they come round, usually Jehovah’s Witnesses, sometimes Catholics or Mormons or God knows what else. I used to engage them in conversation and debate about the issues, even inviting them in on occasion, until one time two Mormons came in and they were so aggressively stubborn about everything I had to literally threaten to beat them up to get them to leave, and since then evangelists have been about as welcome and as interesting to me as a brick through the window. Besides, years ago I used to work with some Jehovah’s Witnesses from whom I learned the art of arguing endlessly in circles. It’s a talent I still possess, though I try to use it wisely – i.e not at all, because you always come back to the same place, the brick wall we know as the Bible. The Bible is true because it says it’s true, and because it’s the Bible it must be true, and round and round and round we go. I feel dizzy now just thinking about it. I think it’s ironic that Alcoholics Anonymous use religion to get people off booze, because I think religion is quite a lot like hard liquor. Some people can handle it and some clearly can’t, and those who can’t can be inclined to make a public spectacle of themselves. And that’s because religion is very powerful stuff. I think it’s a lot more powerful than we’re prepared to admit. I think it’s mind-altering stuff that affects people’s behaviour in the most humiliating way often. Just imagine, for example, if your god told you to drink a bottle of whisky every day for breakfast, what a different person you’d be on the back of that little sacrament. I think evangelising your religion door to door is like a drunken alcoholic going around with a bottle of whisky urging people to drink from it, and thinking that they themselves are some kind of advertisement for this activity. Whenever I answer the door to Christians I find myself feeling involuntarily sorry for them, for the wretched pitiful state they’ve allowed themselves to be reduced to by this mind virus. I always feel like asking them why I would want anything to do with a religion that does this to people. I believe in certain things quite strongly, some things very strongly, but I wouldn’t dream of going around knocking on doors interrupting people’s dinner to tell them about it, especially if I knew they had probably heard it a thousand times before, because that strikes me as a good way to make enemies. Especially when they’ve got the nerve to pretend that they’ve come round to share some good news. “Have you heard the good news?” I thought nobody really said that, but they do. Obviously, as soon as I noticed the Bibles they were carrying I had a ballpark idea of what this good news was likely to be, and I wasn’t disappointed, or rather I was disappointed, because normally if somebody asks me if I’ve heard the good news my reaction is likely to be “Great, I love good news, but wait, let me guess what it is… Let’s see now, the Pope has been impeached – that would be good news. No? That is a shame, isn’t it? We live in hope. I know. President Ahmadinejad of Iran has come out publicly as gay and had himself stoned to death. Not that either? Oh dear, what a disappointment. Ah, I’ve got it. The Organisation of Islamic Conference has been officially declared a terrorist organisation. No? That one really does surprise me. Still, it’s only a matter of time, isn’t it? OK, I give up. You might as well tell me. What’s the good news? Oh but wait, before you do, it’s not Jesus again, is it? Tell me, oh tell me it’s not Jesus again. It is? It’s Jesus again? You have disappointed me. I was so looking forward to some genuinely good news, but it’s just this stuff again. This fatuous puerile guilt-laden fantasy fairy tale story of Jesus, this insulting garbage again? That’s what you call good news? Are you sick? Well that’s a silly question. Of course you’re sick, and you should see a doctor.” That’s what I should have said. However, what I did say was: “I’ve been thinking about this issue for some time now, because you two are not the first people to knock on my door with a similar proposition, and based on the accumulated evidence that I’ve seen standing on this doorstep I have concluded that Christianity is simply too high a price to pay for eternal salvation, and therefore I have elected to forfeit my eternal soul and go directly to hell, so you can cross me off your list of potential sunbeams for Jesus in the happy knowledge that you will never ever have to knock on this door again. Isn’t that good news?” But answer came there none, because they were already halfway down the street, and for me that was very good news indeed, which I believe was the original point of the exercise, so everyone was a winner. Peace. Now that is something worth evangelising.

Easy way for stopping door-to-door evangelists, answer the doors in underwear. Bingo! you are on their blacklist ๐Ÿ˜€

I Think that perhaps Athiests should start evangelizing. That would be fun. Have you heard the good news? You don't have to kill your disobedient 4 yo with a brick! ๐Ÿ™‚

Your response at the door was far more eloquent, but no more effective than what I came up with 25 years ago after several visits from the Seventh Day Adventists. I heard the knock on the door, opened it, saw who it was, and said, "God sucks". That did the trick.

Have you heard the good news? you can murder a family of non believers but you get to keep the virgins to rape after 30 days, yeah god!!!!!

just quoting the bible, but I'm sure you'll think it's out of context. now go cook some bread over a fire made with human shit, Ezekiel 4

Anyone that knocks on the door or calls in the middle of any meal, can't be a good person, that's what I've always said. Unless they'd like to come in and join, I always ask, otherwise,please don't bother me.

You are arguably one of the best anti-theists I've ever heard. You're right up there with Dawkins and Hitchens. Keep up the god work, oops, I mean good work.

Yes, religion can be an alternative to alcoholism. ย If Hitchens, for example, had made the trade he would be alive today. ย You could trade, Pat. ย You might think that getting drunk and making Youtube videos is fun, but when your liver is falling out it might seem like less fun. ย Just a thought.ย 

I was in a 12 step program and I completely agree with you on AA's extreme hypocrisy…my ex gf was a "normal addict" one minute and a charismatic, tongues-speaking, born again Christian, the next. The big book calls it spiritual drunkenness. I call it a gateway drug to Christianity!
Much thanks for your videos!

You can stop Jehovah's Witnesses from calling at your house by asking to be put on the 'Do Not Call' list. Alternatively, tell them you are a JW apostate, (Ex-JW). They will flee in terror, and then put you on the do not call list.

ROFL Can you imagine the looks on their faces if you were actually saying all this to them??

Actually, Jehovah's Witness has some good points.ย  First, they don't recognize Christmas, holidays, anniversaries and birthdays.ย  That's an excellent justification to avoid spending money on useless gadgets.ย  You'll save a lot of money.ย  I wish I would have known about it back when I was married.ย  Secondly, they don't pledge an allegiance to that dreadful flag.ย  Because of these two tenets, that may be partially why Prince claims he is a Jehovah's Witness.

Thankfully it isn't a choice between religion and alcoholism but if it were I would have to opt for alcoholism. At least I would have some moments of lucid, sober thought.

I don't need to be a Christian , born-again or otherwise to find your arguments ridiculous.

You refute the existence of your own squitty little definition of God. SO FUCKING WHAT?๏ปฟ

What's interesting is that God does say about in the Bible to not drink, but no where does it say not to smoke crack or shoot Heroin!!!

I wish Pat Condell would put out a video more than one per month. 30 days is too long to wait, to get my Pat Condell fix.

letting go of fairy tales isn't as easy for some as for others. with Christians they might just need a nudge or two, sometimes 3. with hard core Christians there is probably no help for them but as long as they are not promoting violence and prejudice mostly harmless. hard core Muslims, on the other hand, wont knock on your door, they will kick it in, demand you convert or pay taxes, and maybe kill you anyways.

Mr Condell also shares his views publicly and makes atheism a public, not a private matter. OK, viewers can choose not to listen. But I suppose atheists can refuse to talk to the Jehova's Witnesses when they knock.

I actually welcome Mormon, JW, andย fundamentalist evangelists at the door because, unlike many others, I often have some spare time to talk and I strongly feel that these nice, polite,ย but programmed people need to get schooled by atheists and other thinkers.ย  I also call toll-free religious propaganda phone lines if I can reach an actual person there instead of a recording of one of their miniature sermons.ย  I generally start out by identifying myself as an atheist and then askย them, nice and friendly of course, why they believe what they do.ย  They often seem to have trouble with that simple question.ย  Many religionists seem to fear real discussions, even friendly ones, and the scent of their fear amuses me.ย ย However, itย does get a bit like a cat playing around with a scared little mouse and I don't like to be too mean, so after a while I let them go, which they are usually very happy to do.

Personally, I would like to see people around with their Bibles in high crime neighborhoods teaching others the precepts of the Apostle Paul in Ephesians 4:28 โ€œAnyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need.โ€

Also, I feel that society would be much safer from bad guided politicians like in Sweden in the 1980โ€™s if we have people believing in the New Testament of the Bible going around stating that we will end up living in a much better world if everyone is taught to live up to Jesusโ€™ teachings in Matthew 19:18-19 stating that: โ€œone should not kill, should avoid sexual perversity, should not steal, should not spread lies against other people, should honor their mother and father and that people should love others as they love themselves.โ€

The reason many Swedish think today that they do not live in Sweden but that they live in โ€œAbsurdistanโ€ is because they wished so much sexual freedom from biblical religion that they ended up under-populating Sweden. Since no many people wished to immigrate to Sweden they felt no choice but to accept thousands of young men who were more radically free from the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles Paul and Peter regarding what is proper human behavior.

We need to be reminded that we donโ€™t last forever on this world and after us will come a younger generation that could literally destroy the human species on this earth if they are not trained to think in good moral terms.

Dear Mr. Condell,

Your commentaries are amazing! I wish that you could be cloned a hundred thousand times over, not just physically, but mentally…and that all your clones had access to the media and the Internet to express what you so eloquently express. Thank-you for all you
do. You are a reminder that there are still intelligent, reasoned and compassionate people
on this 'particular' planet. I hope you live forever.

Warmest regards,

Joey

Dear Pat, at point 3.23 in your video you could also have said, 'Orang Utans have finally overthrown their violent oppressors.ย  They've burned down all of their palm olive plantations and demanded that all Homo Sapien leave immediately. Other wise, they refuse to come down from the last tree that they have.'

Don't get me wrong, I agree with pretty much everything Pat has to say
But am I the only one who finds his rants hilarious ?
Peace

Thank you for helping us Gnostic Christians do a beat down on Orthodox Christians.We hope you get louder and stronger.You still kind of soft.General Gnostic Christian Army.Fighting for truth,fighting for Yeshua.Time to burn the bible accept Gospel of Thomas

Yeah, that's the saddest news I've heard for a bit; especially after really getting to like Pat Condel's videos. Not the bit about Jesus people knocking on his door, but the bit where he would actually speak of sending himself to hell to avoid them. Respect for you freedom of thought and expression Pat but please don't send yourself to hell. It might turn out to be more than you bargained for. How about just not answering the door? Or, I've got it!! Get a squirt gun and give them a good shot or two every time they come. Just don't go to hell please. You are needed. Squirt guns are fun.

You are good news. I am laughing like never before,not because I think you are pinhead,but becuase everything is true and specialy the way you are speaking about it.๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Keep up the good work.

comment on "Hell": I learned from AronRa (youtube) that the word hell is derived from Nordic word Hel, which is located in the west where the sun sets and the souls of the dead rest as well. it is not a place of torture and damnation.

5:15 "Peace… now that is something worth evangelizing" hence the point of the JW visit! Maybe try harder to listen to their msg next time pat.

Pat condell all I can say he's a fucking hero . Hes Not scared to say it as it is he's opened my eyes . We all need to open our eyes and see what's coming signs are there as we keep getting pointed out like people like pat

Most times when they come knocking, I open the door (and of course recognize immediately what they want), give them a very quizzical look, and say:
"I'm sorry, I didn't know you were coming as no one called me first to let me know."

Of course, they offer that they are "in the neighborhood" and are seeking out … [presumably "lost souls"] and that they didn't have any "appointment."

So, then I offer to them, "Oh, I see, but since I didn't come to your church, and request this, why do you feel you need to bring this and attempt to shove your bullshit down MY throat?"

That generally puts them off and [after seeing their expressions that range from shock to anger] turn around to walk off.

Two jevovahs witnesses knocked on my door this morning so i let them in, sat them both down in the living room and said "Now what would you like to talk about?", "I don't know" replied one of them, "We've never got this far before." ๐Ÿ˜‰

They are to be pitied- but they feel good about themselves – Just thing they believe they are saving you from Hell! or as we were taught at Sunday school 'the burning fire' Scared the shit out of me as a child, but it gave me the change to check it out I did I read their bible- Been free of the nonsense ever since.

Set the scene. Early in World War Two the great Royal Navy Battlecruiser – Sunday morning service – The crew all 900 plus – singing the Naval hymn – Protect us er where er we go – Shortly after a shell from the German Battle Cruiser hits them – mighty explosion Three survivors – What was that prayer again – protect us? Big deal great protection – Oh yes I know God works in mysterious ways!

I tried to go to heaven. I met St. Peter at the gate. He refused to let me in and told me to go to hell. I followed advice and went to hell. Satan the Devil kicked me out of hell. He said: we have enough trouble already, we don't need YOU!! So I came back to planet earth and that's why I'm here.

Just had my first Jehovah's witnesses at the door and had a polite debate with them. Think I held up to her nonsense well. Immediately checked to see if you had a video on them and here I am. Also a lot of mormon kids working in the city I live in.

You want to defend the West, but why trash its foundational belief? It's fine to reject it, but why mock, disparage, impugn it? The worst thing Christians will do is try to politely proselytize you a few times a year. LOL So what! They sincerely believe your soul is in jeopardy and feel an obligation to try to reach you. I find it innocent and endearing. That's all it is.

I know cults can produce similar behaviors and the human is infinitely malleable, but on the other hand no society based on atheism has ever continued for longer than a few generations. Isn't there a hunger for faith in Britain and Europe? For me, sitting in a church is a radiant, wonderfully peaceful thing. Oh well, all the best! LOL

anyone interested in my vision about Morality? www.truefreedom.nl or YT mark passio natural law seminar. ( about 8 hours )

So that explains why you are always arguing in circles you learned to do it from the good old JW's.
Pat instead of producing endless videos on why you hate religion (except weirdly the Jewish variety) why not be original and makes video on the wonderful things of whatever faith people do.

Mormons are pain in the arse. Their religion is a lie. To me their faith is one of those subscriber religions where you contribute part of your pay packet. A door to door try and convert me to that bull shit. Fuck off and don't come back. If you do I'll set the fucking dogs on you. Go and knock o .a door where people give a shit. I'm quite happy sinning a having a few beers knowing only too well.that when.i die l will go to hell and I don't need cunts like you lot to tell me how I should live

one of the honest smart real and true about every words he says and, it need a real man with ostrich big balls to raise up the truth about every things he says. please lead this insane world (wish you could) and bring sanity back to earth. good luck and keep downloading your enriching videos to the world of masses that are really hungry for every single word and advised you say!!!.

Jehovah Witnesses are NOT Christians and they authored their bible, small B over here in America, or more accurately Down in Brooklyn alongside the Brooklyn-Queens expressway, about 1900 years afterChrist went back 2heaven. Mormons ? Really ? Have you not heard that they got their book of silliness from a bunch of gold plates buried in upstate New York, so Looooong after Jesus left from the other side of the Earth to go back to heaven. Frankly I never heard of Catholics doing the door to door religion peddling. Islam is another of these bogus bullkrap religions, yet you lump all religion together. Jesus who is God said that HE not anyone else would build His church on St. Peter, not King Henry the 8th, or Martin Luther, or John Calvin, orJim Jones, or Tom Cruise . It seems you managed to never look in the right place for what you never wished to find. Truth is found only by those who seek it in sincerity.

I agree with quite a bit of what Pat says and some religious practices do deserve criticism, but when we look at crime, gossip, hate,smoking, drugs etc in general thet are practicedย far more by Atheists than by Christians. I would trust a Christian before an Atheist. for the above mentioned reasons.

The Daily Mail reported on 10 July 1933:

'The German nation, moreover, was rapidly falling under the control of its alien elements. In the last days of the pre-Hitler regime there were twenty times as many Jewish government officials in Germany as had existed before the war. Israelites of international attachments were insinuating themselves into key positions in the German administrative machine.'

Dr. Manfred Reifer, a well known leader of the Jews of Bukovina, wrote in the Jewish magazine Czernowitzer Allegemeine Zeitung (September 1933):

'Whilst large sections of the German nation were struggling for the preservation of their race, we Jews filled the streets of Germany with our vociferations. We supplied the press with articles on the subject of its Christmas and Easter and administered to its religious beliefs in the manner we considered suitable. We ridiculed the highest ideals of the German nation and profaned the matters which it holds sacred.'

Bernard Lecache, President of the World Jewish League, stated in 1932:

'Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war without mercy against her.'

24 March 1933, on the front page of the London Daily Express appeared the main headlines: "Judaea declares war on Germany: Jews of all the world unite", and followed with:

'The Israelite people of the entire world declare economic and financial war on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as the symbol of the new Germany revives the old war symbol of the Jews. Fourteen million Jews stand as one body to declare war on Germany. The Jewish wholesale dealer leaves his business, the banker his bank, the shopkeeper his shop, the beggar his miserable hut in order to combine forces in the holy war against Hitler's people.'

Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of the Irgun Zvai Leumi terrorist organisation, wrote in the January 1934 issue of Mascha Rjetach:

'For months now the struggle against Germany is waged by each Jewish community at each conference in all our syndicates and by each Jew all over the world. There is reason to believe that our part in this struggle has general value. We will start a spiritual and material war of all the world against Germany's ambitions to become once again a great nation, to recover lost territories and colonies. But our Jewish interests demand Germany's total destruction, collectively and individually. The German nation is a threat to us Jews.'

Emil Ludwig Cohen wrote in his book The New Holy Alliance, Strasburg, 1938:

'Even if Hitler at the last moment would want to avoid war which would destroy him he will, in spite of his wishes, be compelled to wage war.'

Bernard Lechache wrote in The Right to Live (December 1938):

'It is our task to organise the moral and cultural blockade of Germany and disperse this nation. It is up to us to start a merciless war.'

The Jewish newspaper Central Blad Voor Israeliten in Nederlands printed on 13 September 1939:

'The millions of Jews living in America, England, France, North Africa and South, not forgetting Palestine, have decided to carry on the war in Germany to the very end. It is to be a war of extermination.'

The Toronto Star (26 February 1940) printed a declaration of a Rabbi Perlberg, Director of the British section of the Jewish World Congress:

'The Jewish World Congress is in a state of war with Germany for seven years.'

The Jewish magazine Sentinel of Chicago printed in its issue of 8 October 1940:

'When the National Socialists and their friends cry or whisper that this [the war] is brought about by Jews, they are perfectly right.'

The Paris magazine L'Ami du Peuple wrote about them (the Jews):

'These people fled from Germany because they attempted to set up a rule of fire and blood and to let loose the horrors of civil war and universal chaos.'

The American Secretary of State, James Forrestal, who later died in mysterious circumstances, wrote in his Forrestal Diaries (Cassel and Co., London 1952):

'Have played golf with Joe Kennedy [US Ambassador in Britain, father of President John Kennedy]. According to him, Chamberlain declared that Zionism and world Jewry have obliged England to enter the war.'

Schlomo Asch, a Jew, in a pep talk to French troops in the line in Le Nouvelles Litteraires (10 February 1940) wrote:

'This is our war and you are fighting it for us. Even if we Jews are not bodily in the trenches we are nevertheless morally with you.'

On 8 October 1942 Sentinel magazine stated unequivocally:

'The Second World War is being fought for the defence and fundamentals of Judaism.'

Maurice Samuel (1895 โ€“ 1972) was a Romanian-born Zionist Jew whose most influential book, You Gentiles, was published in 1924. This shocking classic work of Jewish Supremacism maps out what the avowedly Zionist author saw as the cause of anti-Semitism through the ages: an irreconcilable difference between Jews and all Gentiles, but Europeans in particular. This difference, Samuel argued, was โ€œinherent and biologicalโ€ in origin. The author argues that the real point of difference between Jew and Gentile is that the Gentiles follow what he calls the base โ€œtrivialityโ€ of Gentiles versus the God-like โ€œseriousnessโ€ of Jews. This huge psychological difference, Samuel says, is the reason why Jews regard โ€œplayfulโ€ Gentiles as backward and silly, and why Gentiles will never be able to penetrate the Jewish perception of the world. The book goes on to discuss the main points of difference in behavior between Jews and Gentiles focusing on physical activity, religion, concepts of good and evil, loyalty, science, fair play, and discipline. Maurice spells out why Jews have different attitudes to all these moral and philosophical issuesโ€”and why these values are the opposite of those endorsed by Gentiles. Samuel then says that these inherent and unchangeable differences will always make the Jews out to be โ€œdestroyersโ€ and the โ€œsubvertersโ€ of European culture and society.

Rabbi Mendel Schneerson, the late Jewish Lubavitcher and friend of the senior George Bush, also believed the Jews are a superior Master Race. Many Jews today agree with the late Rabbi. Some even believe that Schneerson will himself someday be resurrected and return as the Jewish World Messiah. Schneerson once explained his theory of Jewish racial superiority this way. He said, "We have a case of the Jew…a totally different species." "The body of a Jewish person," Schneerson bragged, "is of a totally different quality from the body of members of all other nations of the world. Bodies of the Gentiles are in vain. An even greater difference is in regard to the soul…A non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness."?

This masterwork of interpretative history begins with a bold declaration: The Modern Age is the Jewish Age–and we are all, to varying degrees, Jews. The assertion is, of course, metaphorical. But it underscores Yuri Slezkine's provocative thesis. Not only have Jews adapted better than many other groups to living in the modern world, they have become the premiere symbol and standard of modern life everywhere. Slezkine argues that the Jews were, in effect, among the world's first free agents. They traditionally belonged to a social and anthropological category known as "service nomads," an outsider group specializing in the delivery of goods and services. Their role, Slezkine argues, was part of a broader division of human labor between what he calls Mercurians-entrepreneurial minorities–and Apollonians–food-producing majorities. Since the dawning of the Modern Age, Mercurians have taken center stage. In fact, Slezkine argues, modernity is all about Apollonians becoming Mercurians–urban, mobile, literate, articulate, intellectually intricate, physically fastidious, and occupationally flexible. Since no group has been more adept at Mercurianism than the Jews, he contends, these exemplary ancients are now model moderns. The book concentrates on the drama of the Russian Jews, including emigres and their offspring in America, Palestine, and the Soviet Union. But Slezkine has as much to say about the many faces of modernity–nationalism, socialism, capitalism, and liberalism–as he does about Jewry. Marxism and Freudianism, for example, sprang largely from the Jewish predicament, Slezkine notes, and both Soviet Bolshevism and American liberalism were affected in fundamental ways by the Jewish exodus from the Pale of Settlement. Rich in its insight, sweeping in its chronology, and fearless in its analysis, this sure-to-be-controversial work is an important contribution not only to Jewish and Russian history but to the history of Europe and America as well.

Lol Mormons Latter Day Saints Jehovah Witness Catholics none of them represent true born-again Christianity they're all cult on all the Catholics would not think of themselves as such but no words in the Bible says we supposed to be under the Pope and all the other man-made rules that they make you're supposed to worship Jesus alone not marry or pray to Saints there's no purgatory just read the Bible and be saved.

I had two bible bashers knock on my door, i had just come home from the care home where my mother was very distressed. She has been in and out of homes and hospitals all her life with mental health issues. When i answered the door, i let them have their say, then told them about my mother and said that if there is is a god why has he allowed her to be tormented all her life. I told them to stick their religion where the sun don't shine.

This eloquent clown once rightly complained about why do ppl still believe in superstitions in the 21st century like EVIL SPIRITS AND EXCORCISING THE EVIL SPIRIT and he started screaming and shouting WITHOUT giving us a satisfying answer. You don't get answers from clowns only from philosophers. NIETCHE, the German philosopher gave us the answer on one his BOOK HE SAID sth to the effect:
In a society consisted of good ppl , goodness becomes a natural trait for most ppl in that society in it, and it becomes impossible to imagine a bad/ evil coming from that society. Based on this if someone who is thought of as good or / completely good behaved not with the accordance with his initially supposed complete goodness , ppl will find themselves to take him to the exorcists to drive out the evil SPIRITS from his BODY and they will ascribe THAT SIN/ GUILT/ MISBEHAVIOUR to GOD/GODS. These Gods ( real or imagined) ( true or false) were responsible for his misbehaviour/ bad conduct and They / the Gods/ are ones behind his NEWLY DISCOVERED INSANITY and lack of INSIGHT.

This all dawned on me 60+ years ago as a young seminarian; the full impact did not happen overnight but the initial gut feeling started then, while training to be an R.C. priest.
Actually, even as a small boy, I never really believed in it.
Around the age of 6/7/8, you gradually realise that there is no Father Xmas and no Tooth-Fairy either but your Catholicism sticks with you even though you do not see, in your child's mind, why your religion is valid still. After all, there is your headmistress, a nun at school and then at grammar school, there is the headmaster, with grey hair and a kindly smile – an Irish Christian Brother. There is the parish priest who you serve Mass for, Sunday after Sunday – all believers, or so it would seem. So hang on in there, Keith and do as they say and pray for the GIFT of FAITH, like they say you should…. and everything will turn out right.
EXCEPT thatโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ. ermmmmmmโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ NOPE..!
โ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ…..everything did not turn out right, at least vis-ร -vis any vindication of faith.
I left the seminary at 18 and slowly, very slowly it all fell into place.
The weekend I left was the first step; I did not go to Mass – a huge step for a hitherto observant Catholic schoolboy. From that day on, I grew ever bolder and eventually dismissed all the b.s. that we had had thrust down our throats by our teachers, the nuns and the Irish Christian Brothers who were many things, dear old fellows, BUT Christian.
I thought it was just me that thought like that; just me that had apostasised. But NO…!
Roll on a few decades, the 60's 70's 80's 90'sand the noughties…. and what have we now…?
THE INTERNET….!
We have the Internet and contact with other, like-mindeds such as this sooooo articulate Mr. Condell…!
Isolation over.
Great……………………………!
And THANK-YOU Pat……………..!

Keith
MANCHESTER

The good news ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Just amazes me why people in the 21st century would believe a word that was written in a book by, medieval, undernourished, dehydrated. inbred, epileptic bigoted moronic jealous liars. As if coming from a part of the world that has had nothing but trouble & caused nothing but trouble for the rest of the world isn't reason enough to call BS on it, i don't what is.

Love these videos…I like answering the "Have you heard the good news",with a Tom Waites line.."Yes …ain't no such thing as the devil that's just God when he's drunk"

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