DC Extended Universe vs. Marvel Cinematic Universe

DC Extended Universe vs. Marvel Cinematic Universe
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All right, so let me just get this out of the way, I like Marvel and DC films But with the exception of Wonder Woman every DCEU movie has been heavily panned by the critics, So why are the Marvel films significantly more acclaimed and successful than the DC films? Well the DC EU has a few glaring issues There’s the issue of a heavy reliance on spectacle over story There’s also the issue of straying too far away from the roots of the characters. There’s the lack of actual character development There’s the mustache. But the biggest problem that the DCEU has isn’t related to the actual films. The biggest issue is simply how Warner Brothers has chosen to structure their franchise. Now I know what you’re thinking other breaking news But go with me on this. The MCU started in 2008 with ‘Iron Man,’ from that point forward every single film was a thoughtful cog in the ‘Avenger’ building machine. It took four years to get to the Avengers and by that time we were totally invested in these characters. The DCEU began in 2013 with ‘Man of Steel,’ there was then a three year gap of absolutely nothing before 2016’s ‘Batman v. Superman’ That means that over the course of three years, which is an eternity when it comes to comic book movies, no world-building had taken place. Four years after ‘Man of Steel,’ we got ‘Justice League.’ The same amount of time it took for Marvel to journey from ‘Iron Man’ to the ‘Avengers’ The problem is that while Marvel milked these four years for every last drop, The DCEU, well, they completely wasted this time. While it’s only one less film, ‘Suicide Squad’ had little relevance in regards to ‘Justice League’ and only two of these films were dedicated to one hero and key characters like the Flash and Aquaman and Cyborg didn’t even get their own movies and really that’s not even a total necessity. Marvel effectively introduced Black Widow in ‘Iron Man 2’ and ‘Hawkeye’ in ‘Thor.’ But the DCEU introduced us to main heroes like this: So here is my ideal DCEU schedule. For the sake of being fair, I will use all pre-existing DCEU films and try to leave the plots as unchanged as possible. The Nolan films would be too fresh in the minds of the audience by the time the DCEU kicked off in 2013 so we obviously don’t start with Batman And instead of ‘Man of Steel,’ we start off with a slightly adjusted ‘Wonder Woman’ film. This makes sense being that ‘Wonder Woman’ takes place back in time and a female hero would be an exciting fresh way to kick off a universe. Next up, we have a solo ‘Batman’ movie in 2014. This movie focuses on the grizzled weathered Batman that we got in ‘Batman v. Superman.’ But with his own movie we had at least two hours of character building and motivation which we will need leading into 2015’s ‘Man of Steel.’ ‘Man of Steel’ stays relatively unchanged but we feature Bruce Wayne during the third acts destruction of Metropolis. Now this moment has much better payoff, being that we have already spent an entire movie with Bruce. In the spring of 2016 we get ‘Wonder Woman 2’ which takes place back in time again Like Marvel gave Tony Stark two films before ‘The Avengers,’ this will help establish one of the strongest characters even further. In the summer of 2016, we get ‘Batman v. Superman.’ This is just a few months later than the film’s actual release But now with all these characters having their own movies, we actually care about them. And imagine Wonder Woman making her grand entrance if we had two full Wonder Woman movies prior to her making her big return to the battlefield. In 2017, we get an ‘Aquaman’ movie in the summer and a ‘Flash’ movie in the winter. These films can take place either before or after the events of ‘Batman v. Superman.’ But releasing them after prevents the DCEU from getting bogged down leading up to the first team up film. In the summer of 2018, we get ‘Justice League’ which introduces us to Cyborg in the first act, being that he is key in the hunt for the mother boxes. Ideally he would get a standalone movie first, but 7 pre-‘Justice League’ movies is already quite a lot. So his solo movie will kick off phase 2, along with ‘Batman 2,’ ‘Man of Steel 2’ and a slightly hopefully majorly adjusted ‘Suicide Squad.’ With ‘Justice League’ having proper build up, we now know these characters, we have invested time in these characters, and hopefully we care about these characters. But what good is all of this rearranging if the movies still underwhelmed? Well with this new timetable a lot of the issues kind of work themselves out ‘Batman vs Superman’ becomes less bloated not having to cram in so much backstory. I think ‘Man of Steel’ works better taking place in a universe that feels lived-in. And ‘Justice League’ has the potential to become a fully realized film. The bottom line is that the DCEU needs to stop playing catch-up with Marvel and a race that they simply can’t win. Marvel started first, let them cross the finish line first. And I think we’re all ok with waiting a little bit longer if it means better films. And hey, for the record you’re allowed to like both. Be nice to each other.

I hate prequel movies.
We know the character is alive,world is gona saved. There is no point in watching. But MCU's look at captain marvel it has an key information about who and all in mcu are scrulls, even small things like how fury lost his eye.
I personally hated wonder woman. It showed nothing. And now, here comes another prequel movie for wonder woman.
I wonder how people watch such movies.

I choose to see Justice League over Infinity Wars in theaters. I finally got around to seeing Infinity Wars and while I realize there is a part 2 there was some major flaws. It felt like while Marvel started out really clean; this got sloppy and frankly I can't see how some of the actors are gonna want to continue past end game. Because DCEU started slow they have an opportunity to reap allot of cash with people being more interested in Justice League gang vs less popular Marvel characters getting their own movie. I completely agree with this video it would have been better to see things unfold that way. Wonder women and Aqua man really are carrying this franchise which is fine with me there are tons of batman and superman movies. Biggest fail is hiring Affleck for batman.

I get where you guys are coming from but it started idea of Snyder doing a 5 movie arc like a comic he was really trying build a universe like Marvel. If Marvel didn't start first people wouldn't be complaining how the DCEU was structured because of this. So now DC is trying to live in the structure of the way the MCU is set up. That is WB fault not filmmakers.

homecoming was the worst film I've ever watched and I was trying to be generous and give it a chance also Spider-Man is my favourite hero I love every one up until homecoming

Not really into super hero movies at all, but the only and main reason I preferred DC over any Marvel movie is because of somewhat serious tone. Marvel has way too many cheesy scenes and gags that are obviously aimed at kids and man childs, that to me aren't really that funny, just ruin the movie. Humor subtly slipped in is cool, but Marvel might as well add crowd laugh tracks to scenes.

Essentially, Marvel released a lot of half assed Netflix films and people still paid for it. Just to get avengers.
DC took time on their films, but everyone was already in a "book club" like wave of anticipation with marvel, so they bashed the slow drip of actual quality.

The action sequences are just so dumb and thoughtless in DCEU. I want to like them but, WB is like the Jerry Jones of football. This makes it hard for DCEU to really come into its own.

Amazeballs, video is solid.. cant believe i missed this so dissapointed in myself but this is a great one! And definitely looking forward to seeing the MCU and DC universe women get an exceptional treatment. If y'all have questions in mind about whose on flick, whose got the super woman charm check my channel please and do leave a comment.. PEACE.

To DC I would say make movies that fans want to see, don't rush things, find ways to build up hype and get good directors and good actors and you got yourself a great Cinematic Universe on your hands. I'm glad they're trying to do that with Aquaman and Shazam! and I just hope they keep doing that for the many years to come.

why is this a thing? MCU have already running for 10 years? established movies. DCEU is STILL figuring out the identities of their movies. . obviously this MCU VS DCEU is RIDICULOUS AND UNFAIR.
its like comparing a FULLY GROWN APPLE TREE VS. one piece of apple.

im still disappointed with warner bros.. why did they do justice leauge sooooo early.. ugh! its like.. yeah movie! LETS ALSO MAKE A HUGE MOVIE because our competition is doing huge movie.. (civil war & infinity war)

It's actually crazy how just the order in which films are released could completely change a person's viewing experience.

Nice plan, let me get into my time machine…oh, that's right, even if we go back Synder would still direct the Batman and Superman movies like his porn violent Watchmen, so you would still have a mediocre reception between critics and audience… Thanx!!!

The Batman trilogy (batman begins, the dark knight, the dark knight rises) were the best films of dc. Unfortunately not in the DCEU. They should’ve used such good films in dceu.

How World Of DC should have been:

ERA 1: DARKSEID SAGA

Phase 1: The Rise of the Heroes

Year1:
Superman: The Man of Tomorrow

Year2:
The Batman: The Caped Crusader
Wonder Woman: The Amazonian Princess
Green Lantern: The Brightest Light

Year3:
Aquaman: The Emperor of Atlantis
The Trinity: The World's Finest
The Flash: The Scarlet Speedster

Year4:
Martian Manhunter: The Last Martian
Justice League: The World's Greatest Superheroes

Phase 2: Heroes in Crisis

Year4:
The Atom: The World's Smallest Superhero

Year5:
New Gods: The Fourth World New Genesis
Aquaman: The Rise of Atlantis
The Flash: The Fastest Man Alive

Year6:
Superman: The Last Son of Krypton
Green Lantern: The Sinestro Corps War
The Batman: The Gotham Knight

Year7:
New Gods: The Fourth World Apokolips
Wonder Woman: God of War
The Atom: Power of the Atom

Year8:
Green Arrow: The Emerald Archer
Justice League: The Legion of Doom

Phase3: The Fall of the Legends

Year8:
Shazam: Hero of the Heroes

Year9:
Superman: Doomsday
Green Lantern: Emerald Dawn
The Flash: Flashpoint Paradox

Year10:
The Batman: Knightfall
Wonder Woman: War of the Gods
Aquaman: The King of the Seven Seas
Suicide Squad: The World's Most Deadliest Anti-Heroes

Year11:
New Gods: The Fourth World War
Young Justice: The Next Generations
Justice League: Darkseid War

Year12:
The Atom: In The Microverse
Legion of the Superheroes: Heroes of the Future
Justice League: Endgame

My frustration with the DCEU is that I know these characters are great. I grew up on the Justice League, not the Avengers, but right now, the DC films seem like a cheap knock-off… well, until they recently started to markedly improve. With DC focusing more on solo films right now that are often quite different from Marvel totally, like Shazam! or Aquaman and even Joker (though that’s not part of the DCEU), I still have hopes that they might just make it and at least be something complementary to the MCU rather than something competing with it.

Imagine if the MCU released their movies in this order:

Iron man
Civil war
Guardians of the galaxy
Black widow
Avengers
Hulk
Ant-Man

No need to imagine, just watch the DCEU

Warner Brothers should lay down their DCEU, allow DC comics to recover and think up a strategy while current DCEU is fading from peoples collective memory. Start over many years from now, preferably with their own studio, and do these characters and stories justice for god's sake, these movies have been so bad (excepting wonder woman)!

Kinda unrelated but my friend once told me all superhero movies were the same while I was talking about Endgame. (She said: we meet the hero(s), we meet the villain, hero(s) win. Which is not true. For both Marvel and DC.) She said “they’re just repetitive, that’s all”

She then started talking about how much she loved romcoms. And no, this isn’t a joke it actually happened.

I’m a fan of DC’s HQs but the only movie I really liked from them was Wonder Woman… I took my parents to watch SupermanVSBatman in the theatre but they seemed more entertained watching Infinity War at home and couldn’t stop talking about how excited they were to watch Endgame. To me DC movies seems like “this is the plot and some cool fight scenes, that’s it” I think they should step up their game a bit more.

If only dc did it like this

Phase 1:

Year 1:
Superman(Face of the DCEU)
Villain: Lex Luthor

Batman
Villain: Ras Al Ghul (first quarter of the movie)
Joker (Villain for the rest of the movie)

Wonder Woman
Villain: Circe

Year 2:
Flash
Villain: The Reverse Flash

Green Lantern
Villain: Yellow Lantern Corps

Aquaman
Villain: Oceanmaster

Year 3
Superman 2
Villain: General Zod

Batman and Robin
Villain: Deathstroke

Wonder Woman 2
Villain: Felix Faust

Year 4:
Green Lantern War of the Lanterns
Villains: (Orange Lanterns Red Lanterns Remnants of the Yellow Lanterns and parallax)
Allies: Blue Lanterns and Purple Lanterns

Aquaman 2
Villain: Black Manta

Flash 2
Villain: Gorilla Grodd

Year 5
Justice League
Members:
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Flash
Villain:
Braniac
Post Credits: Reveal of Darkseid
That ends phase one so far we have the original six and Robin now we do a 3 year time skip

Phase 2:

Year 1

Martian Manhunter
Villain: Race that eliminated their race

Teen Titans
Members:
Robin
Cyborg
Starfire
Beast Boy
Raven
Donna Troy
Villains The H.I.V.E

Suicide Squad:
Members
Harley Quinn
Clayface
Killer Croc
Two Face
Deadshot
Deathstroke
Katanna
Captain Bommerang
Diablo

Year 2
Doctor Fate
Villain: Eclipso

Green Arrow w/ Black Canary
Villain: Black Mask

Shazam
Villain: Black Adam

Year 3

Hawkgirl and Hawkman: Thanagarian Civil War

Justice League Invasion
Members:
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Aquaman
Flash
Green Lantern
Martain Manhunter
Doctor Fate
Green Arrow
Red Tornado(After they beat TO Morrow in the beginning)
Hawkman
Hawkgirl
Steel
Black Canary
Captain Atom
Shazam
Booster Gold
Villains:
Braniac Upgraded Armor w/ Darkseid and Lex Luthor and Amazo Bots.
4 Year Time Skip after Justice League Invasion

Year 4
Superman 3/w
Supergirl
(Superboy is made in this movie)
Villain: Doomsday(Superman puts him in the phantom zone)

Batman 3 w/
Nightwing
Tim Drake
Red Robin
Stephanie Brown (Batgirl)
Damian Wayne
Batwoman
Villain: Ras Al Ghul

Wonder Woman 3
Villain: Ares

Year 5
Flash 3 w/ Wally West and Bart Allen
Villain: Savatar

Aquaman 3 w/ Aqualad
Villain: Ocean Master Returning

Green Lantern 3 Blackest Night(Hal doesnt return until JL3)
Villain: Nekron
Post Credit:
Anti Monitor Cameo

Phase 3
2 Year Time Skip

Year 1
Birds of Prey:
Members
Catwoman
Huntress
Artemis
Batgirl(Stephanie Brown)

Teen Titans 2
Members:
Nightwing
Starfire
Cyborg
Raven
Beast Boy
Aqualad
Red Arrow
Artemis
Zatanna
Kid Flash
Impulse
Superboy
Supergirl
Batgirl
Red Robin(Tim Drake)
Damian Wayne
Huntress
Lady Martian
Blue Beetle
Firestorm
Donna Troy
Stargirl
Wonder Girl
Villain: Trigon

Lobo(Solo Film)

Year 2
Hawk and Dove

Red Hood(Flashback Film)

The Phantom Stranger(Solo Film)

Year 3
Watchmen(Post Doomsday Plan Present Day)
Members:
New Rorschach
Silk Spectre
Nite Owl
Ozymandias
Doctor Manhattan
Story: They Investigate why universes are disappearing off the grid.(Anti Monitor)

Spectre(Solo Film)

West Coast Justice League
Members:
The Question
Vixen
Black Canary
Green Arrow
Steel
The Phantom Stranger
Black Lightning
Booster Gold
Orion
Villain: Loose Villains

Year 4
Justice League Crisis On Infinite Earths
Members:
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Flash
Aquaman
Doctor Fate
Shazam
Martian Manhunter
Green Arrow
Red Tornado
The Phantom Stranger
Booster Gold
Orion
Vixen
Hawkgirl
Hawkman
Orion
Black Canary
Black Lightning
Steel
Captain Atom
Hawk and Dove

Teen Titans
Nightwing
Starfire
Cyborg
Raven
Beast Boy
Wally West
Impulse
Zatanna
Superboy
Supergirl
Red Arrow
Artemis
Aqualad
Donna Troy
Wonder Girl
Stargirl
Firestorm
Lady Martian
Blue Beetle
Huntress
Damian Wayne
Batgirl
Red Robin(Tim Drake)
Villain: The Anti Monitor(Gains Anti Life Equation in End)

Survivors:
Superman
Batman
Wonder Woman
Flash
Green Lantern
Aquaman
Nightwing
Starfire
Cyborg
Raven
Beast Boy
Everyone else is dead.
(Watchmen Make Cameo at the end)

Year 5

The Creation
Characters:
Lucifer Morningstar
Ellanie Belloc
Michael Demiurgos
The Presence
The Endless
Great Evil Beast
The Spectre

Mr Mxzypltlk
(Solo Film)

Year 6
Justice League Annihilation
10 Years from JL3
Members
Superman(Turn into Superman Prime)
Batman
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Flash
Aquaman
Nightwing
Jason Todd
Starfire
Cyborg
Beast Boy
Raven
The Watchmen help
Interveners:
Mr Mxzypltk( Imps superman to Superman Prime)
Lucifer and Michael
(Create Weapons to Damage the Anti Monitor)
Villain: Anti Monitor w/ Anti Life Equation
Deaths:
Nightwing
Superman
Flash
Green Lantern
Jason Todd
(Everyone returns in the end)
Idk what happens next tbh.

MARVEL- Avengers DC-Justice League….MARVEL-Captain Marvel DC- Shazam….MARVEL- CAPTAIN AMERICA CIVIL WAR DC-Batman V Supermán….MARVEL-Endgame….. DC-..holy uhh hmm uhh Jim Carrey-No NO NOOOO (not another mask movie)

I have no clue why huge companies like DC seemingly destroy themselves.. I agree 100% with what you said.

I would bet my "left almond" that it would have resulted in a much more successful DCEU if they had equipped themselves with some COMMON SENSE!!!!!!

I AM A HUGE FAN OF BOTH.. I ALSO LOVE THEM BOTH!!
There is ONLY ONE SINGLE reason I have ended up being a bigger fan of Marvel.

Reason: They did a better job making a Universe… I.E. backstories and fitting movies together etc

Spider-Man homecoming and Black Panther came out after Civil War, so they both were in a combination movie before their solo movies

lack of character development??? other than iron man and captain america they showed jack shit for any of the other ones……for most dc characters they showed it…batman…superman….aquaman…..wonderwoman……cyborg……

I think that the biggest problem with DC extended universe is that the release dates of the films were not correct

Hey you didnt showed the whole Dark knight trilogy, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Constantine, Aquaman, Supeaman's first movie and Shazam!

Yeah,if they estructure well the universe introducing well the main characters instead running out in other to persuit the rival company allow to them just make the future universe more coesive and atractive for general public….but the only responsable here was warner,they get the right man behind them,it was Zack snyder an amazing director só wasted his talent and fire him makin him like the responsable to a better sucess when in truth was they himselfs….
The contract was an arc around superman t hats why the others characters well not só good explored….can you imagine one batman without is own film???
Zack original vision was not even shooted ,he have to work under pressure to make warner Wills happens instead let the director expose his trully vision on that…
Even everything that DCu true on in my opinion their films still the best in his genre,i think MoS ,BvS are the best cbm to date follow by aquaman , WW and Shazam….i really apreciatte the tone on DC films far from his oposite company…..thats a shame how warner screw what could be the best universe of sy fy based in superheros….DC comic books have só magnific characters and stories to tell in the big screens…Now the only good think warner have to do is release the snydercut just to make some justice unless to the fans

I love Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman,Green Arrow, Shazam,Black Widow and Hawkeye. I have no right to hate I'm not cancer like the biggest fandom of live action Super hero movies.

It’s Warner bros fault not dc … it’s like if you had power in your hands you either use it in a good way or in a bad way simple as that .. as we all can see Warner bros admitted theirselves that they don’t care about the movies they just Want to make movies

DC just doesn't have the hype and lead up compared to MCU, who spent many solo movies building characters AND THEN having a team up. Not to mention the villains suck (like Justice League), or unfortunately aren't used well (Suicide Squad). The only movie I've liked from them recently was Wonder woman. That's it. (It wouldn't be the same without Matt Daemon)

"There's the issue of a heavy reliance on spectacle over story"

Okay, if DC actually had better spectacle, it should beat Marvel. Also Marvel have way more privilege as it is trendy to hate DC.

IF DC was Marvel:

1. Man of Steel
2. Aquaman
3. Man Of Steel 2
4. Wonder Woman
5. The Batman
6. Justice League
7. Man of Steel 3
8. Wonder Woman 2
9. The Batman 2
10. Green Lantern Corps
11. Justice League 2
12. Atom
13. Batman 3 – Batman vs Superman
14. Shazam
15. Green Lantern Corps 2
16. The Flash
17. Wonder Woman 3
18. Cyborg
19. Justice League 3 – Crisis on Infinity Earths
20. Atom 2
21. Supergirl
22. Justice League 4
23. The Flash 2
24. Batgirl

and so it goes…

I agree with you I just felt like DC rushed in each movie to be the same level as marvel, but they failed and I knew that the critics were actually harsh towards some dc movies because of WB fault. though I'm a marvel fan and I still like dc, but there is some dc movies that I actually like
Aquaman,wonderwomen and superman vs batman.

The reason why me and most of the people I know like marvel more is bcuz theres like nothing to see or listen to in DCEU except some parts where they actually talk or have an argument or fight instead of looking at each other for mins doing nothing or doing something in a silent scene where you get bored. Which happened in End Game too but at the end of the day it was still better than DCEU

It's not that complicated, really. They should have less cringe-ier movies (less of those cringy special effects and less slow motion usage) which is yes, part of the "better writing, editing and directing" fundamental thing. Also, yes, the build-up. And, yes, even though their characters are more unhuman-like therefore making them already less realistic and relatable than the MCU's, I think they could still do a better job in making their characters DO actions that are sensible and NOT do actions that are out of place. In making their characters more HUMAN while still retaining their "powerful, unhuman-like being" image. Give them quiet but important moments. 🙂

Now that spiderman is with DC, I'm sure that we are back to too serious, deep drama version of it just like the first spiderman movie. I want spiderman to be light, funny just like what it is right now.

Honestly if DC just admitted they rushed a Justice League movie, started over (they don’t even need to recast) and actually took their time to build to a crazy awesome movie most Marvel fans would probably give them a chance.

it makes me so sad as a DC fan that just a dude thinks better than a bunch of people full of degrees on these industry. fuckin sad. DC characters and their stories deserved better.

I hope the new joker movie is the start of the dccu dc cinematic universe and have Better movies then the dceu ones I'm a fan of dc more so then marvel but dceu is shit mcu is far better but I loved the joker movie so maybe they did say they might make a joker 2

The DCEU is a mess and missed opportunity, but i do like some of those movies better than Marvel's. I think most DCEU movies look better. Very deep dark blacks and colors that pop out. It does something to the watching experience.

This vid gets everything wrong about the DCEU.

Critic bias in favor of Marvel sat at the top position at RT from 2007 to 2017. MOS …..BVS- UE…WW…are all story over style . The structure was fine..It was studio interference that was the only issue. The DCEU was meant to be a shorter contained universe and not a long ongoing one like the MCU ..So naturally the character introduction and structure would be very different . We don't need an industry creatively smothered by Marvel's way..We need diversity of structure in the cinema landscape .

There's no way in hell The Incredible Hulk movie is better than MOS …MOS should have had a high critic score ..but most critics hate Zack Snyder

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